well, he overreacted, shall we say charitably because as one of the great men of america today, davey johnson the manager of the washington nationals have said you've got to attack attack attack and i think that's fundamentally true whether it's baseball or debates. >> rose: he also seemed to, in my judgment, everybody going in said he's got to be aggressive but not sort of go too far down the line of pushing the president because of the likability factor. romney wanted to be aggressive and at the same time make himself likeable as well. he seemed to have bridged that gap. mike. >> i think so. mitt is a low way scious guy. i think the president prepped by watching a lot of debates and not where he cleaned the clock with a democratic state and democratic opponent. he will get better. obama has to plan on the obama campaign and improving. the problem solving, the fixer, the guy who is excited with ideas is a very attractive candidate. if they can make the spotlight of the campaign on that with this new interest they're going to generate, they're going to do pretty well. the obama guys will try